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    Quote Originally Posted by BondJmsBond View Post
    Aren't these just common sense?

    No one is truly objective, nor should they be. To be truly objective you'd have to be completely empty-headed.

    and 'objective' relative to what? relating complete objectivity to anything makes it biased, so it only exists in a vacuum and is nonsensical imo.
    I really don't think these are common sense. Some of them might be common sense to some people I guess, but they certainly aren't common sense in society on the whole.
    I agree that nothing is 100% objective. Experience creates subjectivity virtually by definition. With that being said, we can (theoretically) inspect the facts or data and make decisions based solely on those facts & data, but we have to do our best to remove our biases to do that.

    (Evolution is a fact, vaccines work and don't cause autism, we really landed on the moon, there is no compelling evidence that aliens have visited the planet, the earth is 4 billion + years old, not 6-10 thousand... and so on...)

    People cling to beliefs for emotional reasons, and their biases make it easy to stay the course.
    Our biases get in the way of rational thought (or critical thinking if you prefer).

    When you are studying any matter or considering any philosophy, ask yourself only what are the facts and what is the truth that the facts bear out. Never let yourself be diverted either by what you wish to believe or by what you think would have beneficent social effects if it were believed, but look only and solely at what are the facts. - Bertrand Russell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    Sorry, but the guy is an asshole. You can try to marginalize it into a cognitive bias but I won't give a damn if you do.
    The guy's got bombers flying off the coast of North Korea to rattle sabers and yet he spent his day bitching about NFL and NBA players,
    as if a guy kneeling for the National Anthem and/or if they are coming to the White House for a visit is the crux of our national problem.



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    ..... and here i was thinking we were keeping the politics/trumpdumping out of these other threads

    "i know enough to know what's instantly forgettable"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sp88 View Post
    ..... and here i was thinking we were keeping the politics/trumpdumping out of these other threads

    Misrule started it.


    ...and I apologize. I was wrong to post that in here.
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    To do a must un-Broken thing and get this thread back on track...

    You can catch yourself distorting your decision processes towards what you want and away from the facts. The next time you have to make a big purchase decision - a car, a house, etc. You will probably make some kind of factual comparison between the options available to you. But notice that you will probably "score" the facts so that the option you want is the one that is selected. There is a complex interaction between logic and emotion involved in decision making. We tend to decide very quickly (based on our emotions, biases, gut feel) and then back up our decision with the "facts". Logical and rational, my arse. But we get what we want.

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    Backfire Effect



    When your core beliefs are challenged, it can cause you to believe even more strongly.

    We can experience being wrong about some ideas as an attack upon our very selves, or our tribal identity. This can lead to motivated reasoning which causes us to double-down, despite dis-confirming evidence.

    ďIt ainít what you donít know that gets you into trouble.
    Itís what you know for sure that just ainít so.Ē - Mark Twain

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    We all know where this is leading. Do you really need to list 24 of them?

    > If you are so secure in your disbelief, why do you need to make such a concerted effort to gain converts?




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    Quote Originally Posted by baddfingerz View Post
    We all know where this is leading. Do you really need to list 24 of them?

    > If you are so secure in your disbelief, why do you need to make such a concerted effort to gain converts?
    He can post anything he wants here within reason.
    If you and I and everyone else can talk about our stuff here, so can he.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baddfingerz View Post
    We all know where this is leading. Do you really need to list 24 of them?
    I enjoy these, and I am interested in how the mind works and I am interested in sharing that information. If you aren't interested you are permitted to not read the thread. Seriously, it's okay.

    Quote Originally Posted by baddfingerz View Post
    > If you are so secure in your disbelief, why do you need to make such a concerted effort to gain converts?
    Respectfully, I am certain that you are not certain what you speak of.

    “I know of no society in human history that ever suffered because its people became too desirous of evidence in support of their core beliefs.”
    ― Sam Harris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atheist View Post
    I am certain that you are not certain what you speak of.
    "It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.” - Mark Twain



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