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    At this stage it is difficult to see how they can move forward constructively. A hard Brexit would be very costly, in many ways and for a long time. A soft Brexit seems out of reach in the Commons. No Brexit would divide the country for a generation. And a general election would probably result in a hung Parliament.
    Pity there aren't any good leaders at the top of the two main parties...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Persephone View Post
    Lhere's no doubt that it's easy criticize May's handling of the affair, but then try to imagine charting a course that would please both sides...
    At this point, if I were her...I'd absolutely quit and go home, have a cup of tea, kick my feet up on the table and watch the shit show.
    Every side in this wants things absolutely their way and they aren't going to agree with anyone else.

    Mind you, our side would be doing the same thing.
    Y'all better get ready for your Hard Brexit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    Y'all better get ready for your Hard Brexit.
    But, wait! Just when you think it's hopeless, Theresa announces another means of getting her deal passed by the Commons - talk to Jeremy (leader of the main opposition party) to see if they can agree anything, as long as it includes her deal (that won't work). If that doesn't work, try to get indicative votes "on the future relationship with the EU" to pass something; then, put her deal to the Commons again.
    I notice one small (or very large) wrinkle - this stage of the process is about leaving, not about the future relationship. That is for the next stage of negotiations, if they leave with a deal.
    <scratches head>
    Not sure this is going to solve the impasse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misrule View Post
    But, wait! Just when you think it's hopeless, Theresa announces another means of getting her deal passed by the Commons - talk to Jeremy (leader of the main opposition party) to see if they can agree anything, as long as it includes her deal (that won't work). If that doesn't work, try to get indicative votes "on the future relationship with the EU" to pass something; then, put her deal to the Commons again.
    I notice one small (or very large) wrinkle - this stage of the process is about leaving, not about the future relationship. That is for the next stage of negotiations, if they leave with a deal.
    <scratches head>
    Not sure this is going to solve the impasse
    I'm not even sure they want a solution at this point.
    The Conservatives seem to want someone to blame when everything goes bang! Todays announcement seems like a ploy so that they can blame Labour if the UK crashes out with out a deal. Like you, I can't see any way that Labour or the DUP will now suddenly vote for Theresa's deal and trust her that she will keep her word about the future arrangements part of things.

    What a mess!

    Labour on the other hand seem to take the view that it would be "better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven". They don't seem that bothered if we crash out and suffer economic disaster as long as there is an election and they get into power.
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    I do think that whenever and however this is resolved, you all should get together and beat David Cameron to death, just on pure principle.
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    ^ we were planning that long before anyone had heard of brexit anyway

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    Government - Do you want a blowjob, Yes or No?
    Electorate - Yes please!

    Government - We did out best but the only blowjob we could get you is from a Piranha
    Electorate - I am not sure about this anymore

    Government - You can't change your mind now! blowjob means blowjob.

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    ^ i always thought that joke would have been more apt had the government replied "we did our best but we can't deliver the blowjob you wanted because having the necessary rib removed wasn't feasible after all"

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