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    I agree that the morally right thing to do would be to stop telling people that "only I understand the will of the British people and what they wanted when they voted leave" and put the options to them in second vote.

    In my view it wouldn't be rerunning the referrendum, it would be a second stage;
    1. Leave with Theresa May's negotiated deal
    2. Leave with no deal
    3. Abort the process and stay within the EU

    That way, what ever we as a people choose, we can't complain that we were tricked and then railroaded.

    My wife put it into context last week, she said if our family take a vote and decide to eat out at a restraunt, we would still expect to look at the menu and make a further choice when we get there. To which I added that if when we got there we found the restraunt was on fire, we surely wouldn't be forced to go in just because we made a choice before we had all the facts, we could decide to go back home and forget the whole idea.

    Part of the problem is that we are all so sick of it and the way politicians have neglected every other issue here in the UK to obsess over Brexit that we would happily accept anything to get it over with. Drive over a cliff, crash and burn, most of us die horribly - love it! sounds like a plan! lets do it! ANTHING to make this journey end.

    And this is just to agree the transition period, the future relationship and trade is still to be negotiated. I may take the easy way out - get an Irish passport and emigrate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbiec View Post
    I may take the easy way out - get an Irish passport and emigrate
    We'll have to think about that.

    Are you worthy of an Irish passport?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Misrule View Post
    We'll have to think about that.

    Are you worthy of an Irish passport?

    My Mum's maiden name was Ward
    My wife's maiden name was Finn
    When they play England I always cheer for Ireland - in any sport
    I prefer Irish Whiskey to Scotch Whiskey
    I sometimes drink Guiness - by choice!

    Please let me in - I promise to be good.

    My wife's father still has his Irish passport so she thinks she will be okay to apply and she is threatening to leave me and the kids behind while she gets a new life with her "real" family over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misrule View Post
    Are you worthy of an Irish passport?
    build a wall



    Quote Originally Posted by Arbiec View Post
    Scotch Whisky
    corrected - a scot may very well lynch you for putting an "e" in whisky

    "i know enough to know what's instantly forgettable"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misrule View Post
    We'll have to think about that.

    Are you worthy of an Irish passport?

    Quote Originally Posted by sp88 View Post
    build a wall

    or... a gameshow obstacle course, suspended above water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defrabbit View Post
    or... a gameshow obstacle course, suspended above water.
    Bring back Jeux sans Frontiers? It's a Knockout! Sited on the Irish Sea. If you make it through the tasks, you get an Irish Passport. Sounds like a great idea for a game show.
    I'm an Irishman, get me into there?

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    My mothers' maiden name is Noonan, can I come? Something inside me seems to yearn for rolling green glens and Guinness, if I could get it cold.

    Quote Originally Posted by defrabbit View Post
    or... a gameshow obstacle course, suspended above water.
    Haha dr always makes me laugh, and then think
    Great fun, but unworkable, unfortunately. PC'ers would moan about the pregnant women and toddlers being thrown about.



    The course would have to be very difficult as you can't let everyone in, so all you would get are the ninjas and you'd have to retool your industry into making all the swords and black pajamas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BondJmsBond View Post
    Is it still even possible at this late stage that England could tell the EU "Er, never mind, we've decided to stay. We'll just be right over here. " ?
    The EU has now made it clear that this would be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BondJmsBond View Post
    The EU has now made it clear that this would be fine.
    of course it has

    if/when the uk departs, europe will be in a hell of a mess - the 3rd biggest contributor going awol? - are germany going to pick up the slack and continue bailing even more of europe out?
    "i know enough to know what's instantly forgettable"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BondJmsBond View Post
    The EU has now made it clear that this would be fine.
    They will probably make us squirm a bit though and then try to remove some of the vetos and opt outs we had before triggering article 50.

    Still worth it in my view.

    More likely though is that any real chance of us staying in will be enough for the Brexiteers in Parliament to suddenly decide they aren't as opposed to Theresa May's deal as they thought they were and to vote it through.

    Politicians of all parties and all nations seem to be spineless and unprincipled.

    Churchill said that democracy is the worst form of government, apart from all the other types of government.

    I think I agree

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